Holder DNA Genealogy Project - Group A

Holder family of Bertie and Chatham Counties, North Carolina

 

This page was revised on August 26, 2012.

Sample #001: USA: Thomas Holder & Susannah Bunch, Bertie Co. NC > John Holder & Mary Jackson, Bertie & Orange Co. NC > Aaron Holder & Rebeccah Evans; Orange, Wake & Chatham Co. NC > John Holder & Maryanne Elizabeth Smith Chatham Co. NC > Joseph Isaiah Holder & Sarah Eveline Worthington, Chatham County, NC to Alachua County, Florida

Sample #003 USA: Thomas Holder & Susannah Bunch, Bertie Co. NC > John Holder & Mary Jackson, Bertie & Orange Co. NC > Aaron Holder & Rebeccah Evans; Orange, Wake & Chatham Co. NC > John Holder & Maryanne Elizabeth Smith Chatham Co. NC > John Henry Holder & Eldora Holland, Chatham County, NC

Sample #004 USA: Thomas Holder & Susannah Bunch, Bertie Co. NC > John Holder & Mary Jackson, Bertie & Orange Co. NC > Aaron Holder & Rebeccah Evans; Orange, Wake & Chatham Co. NC > Gilbert Evans Holder (1811-after 1880) Wake County, NC and Lincoln, Bedford and Moore County, TN > Aaron Wesley Holder (1834-1907) Wake County, NC and Lincoln, Bedford amd Marshall County, TN

Sample #013 USA: William P. Holder (Born 1815 in Murphy, Cherokee County, NC) & Margaret Sherrill; William Clayton Holder (Born Oct. 22, 1848 in NC Died November 09, 1923) & Harriet Evelyn Dunlop; William Newman Holder (Born December 31, 1875 in Parker County Texas Died January 09, 1945 Deming, New Mexico) & Dora Leddenham.
Previously we had designated this as group A2a, based on the variant marker DYS458. However, two other samples (017 and 034) share a fairly recent common ancestry with 013 but have the typical value at DYS458. We are therefore now grouping this with the remainder of the A1 samples.

Sample #014 USA: William Holder & Mary Ann Hardin?? > Daniel Holder & Nancy Standeford Orange Co. NC > William Henderson Holder & Nancy Hauser, Stokes/Forsyth Co. NC > Daniel P. Holder, Indiana. This sample shares ancestry with #076.

Sample #017 USA: William P. Holder (ca. 1815 NC - ca. 1860 Polk Co. AR) > William Clayton Holder (1848 NC - 1923 Lynn Co. TX) > Ben Rogers Holder (1889-1968 TX)

Sample #020 USA: William B. Holder, born 1863 (location unk), married Ollie Jones in Alabama and later moved to Wichita Falls, TX. This sample matches the A1 group over 25 markers; we also have data for markers 26-37 for this sample.

Sample #027 USA: Elisha Holder > Shadrack Holder b. 1776 in Bertie Co. NC and Minnie Dunning > Thomas Holder b. 1807 KY and Lucinda Hildrith > Peter H. Holder b. 1832 KY and Henrietta White > Peter O. Holder b. 1877 Bollinger Co. MO. This sample differs from the other group A samples at DYS 447, a relatively stable marker, and we designated this as a new subgroup, A3. Now that the previous A2 subgroup has been consolidated into group A1, this becomes A2. Sample #090 also has this change at DYS 447.

Sample #034 USA: Newman Jackson Holder (1818-1896), born NC, died Texas, married Martha Ann Moss in Cherokee Co. NC 1847; in Hood Co. TX 1870s-1880s, moved to Donley Co. TX late 1880s. Like sample 013, this one has a connection to Cherokee Co. NC, and it seems likely that William P. Holder and Newman Jackson Holder are brothers, probably sons of William Holder and Elizabeth Jackson. Sample 017 shares this lineage. Sample 034 has several differences from the typical A1 group pattern, but all are in rapidly changing markers. These differences could be useful in future work in sorting out branches of this family.

Sample #075 USA: information not yet in

Sample #076 USA: William Henderson Holder (1822-1864), born NC, married Nancy Barnet Hauser (1824-1860) [also ancestors of sample 014] > James Wesley Holder (1845-1929) b. Stokes Co. NC, married Margaret Celestus Eubank in 1869 in Bartholomew Co. IN > William Arthur Holder (1872-1944) m. Lillie Elnora Hollister; in Indiana in 1880, in Houston Co. TN by 1894. Although this participant shares more recent ancestors in common with 014 than with the other group A members, they differ at the rapidly changing marker DYS 458.

Sample #090 USA: (Adam?) James Holder (1799-1882) NC to Monroe Co. GA > Thomas Jefferson Holder (1839-1889) > John Thomas Holder (1877-1956), Henry Co. GA. James may be the son of Elisha Holder (~1770-1826) of Bertie Co., NC, who names a son James in his will. Like sample #027, this one differs from the other group A samples at marker DYS 447. Sample #027 is a putative descendant of an Elisha Holder also, but if the dates are correct, that Elisha is a generation older than the putative father of James.


 

The Holder A group belongs to Haplogroup R1b1b2.

 

 
 
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2
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12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
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23
24
25

ID#

Group

DYS
393

DYS
390

DYS
19

DYS
391

DYS
385a
DYS
385b

DYS
426

DYS
388

DYS
439

DYS
389-1

DYS
392

DYS
389-2

DYS
458
DYS
459a
DYS
459b

DYS
455

DYS
454

DYS
447

DYS
437

DYS
448

DYS
449
DYS
464a
DYS
464b
DYS
464c

DYS
464d

001

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

003

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

004

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

013

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

18

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

014

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

017

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

020

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

034

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

31

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

075

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

076

A1

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

16

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

027

A2

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

090

A2

13

24

15

10

11

14

12

12

13

14

13

30

17

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

29

15

15

17

17

 

 

Markers 26 through 37 have been tested on the following samples.

 
 
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27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37

ID#

Group

DYS
460

GATA
H4

YCA
IIa

YCA
IIb

DYS
456

DYS
607

DYS
576
DYS
570
CDY
  a
CDY
  b

DYS
442

DYS
438

004

A1

11

11

19

21

15

15

20

17

37

38

12

12

017

A1

11

11

19

21

15

15

20

17

37

38

12

12

020

A1

11

11

19

21

15

15

19

17

37

38

12

12

034

A1

11

11

19

21

14

15

21

17

36

38

12

12

075

A1

11

11

19

21

15

15

20

17

37

38

12

12

076

A1

11

11

19

21

15

15

20

17

37

38

12

12

090

A1

11

11

19

21

15

15

20

17

37

38

12

12

 

 

We now have 67-marker data for one sample, number 076. Eventually it would be good to expand to this test level for a couple of representatives with a solid paper trail back to Thomas Holder and Susannah Bunch of Bertie Co. NC, and for each of the lineages that whose early ancestry is less certain. This might enable us to establish whether Thomas and Susannah are the ancestors of all the A group, or if there was an earlier split.

 
 
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39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47

ID#

Group

DYS
531

DYS
578

DYS
395
S1a

DYS
395
S1b

DYS
590

DYS
537

DYS
641

DYS
472

DYS
406
S1

DYS
511

076

A1

11

9

15

16

8

10

10

8

10

10

 

 
 
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60

ID#

Group

DYS
425

DYS
413a

DYS
413b

DYS
557

DYS
594

DYS
436

DYS
490

DYS
534

DYS
450

DYS
444

DYS
481

DYS
520

DYS
446

076

A1

12

23

23

18

10

12

12

14

8

12

22

21

13

 

 
 
61
62
63
64
65
66
67

ID#

Group

DYS
617

DYS
568

DYS
487

DYS
572

DYS
640

DYS
492

DYS
565

076

A1

12

11

13

10

11

12

12

 

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