Holder DNA Genealogy Project - Group B

Descendants of John Holder and Barbara Volck of Pennsylvania

John Holder was the son of Reu or Rem Holder and Sybilla Graeff, and was born in London in 1694. Sybilla immigrated to America with her son John in either 1707 or 1710 (data from two sources conflict) and settled in a German-speaking community near Newburgh, New York. John married Barbara Volck, whose family came from near Worms, Germany, and moved with her to Pennsylvania. In 1748 John and Barbara joined the Moravian church at Bethlehem PA. For convenience, this family is often referred to by Holder researchers as the Moravian or Moravian-associated Holders, but it should be noted that not all of their children became Moravians. There is also evidence that the children were bilingual, and that some of them were primarily English-speaking as adults.

At least four of John and Barbara's sons have descendants with the Holder surname: John b. 1725, whose descendants moved to New Brunswick at the time of the American Revolution, and Joseph b. 1727, George b. 1729 and Charles b. 1744, all of whom moved to North Carolina. Another son, Jacob b. 1741, may have had children but we have no information on them. We hope that DNA analysis will shed some light on John's Holder ancestry.

Sample #002: John HOLDER/HOLTER 1694-1784 > Joseph HOLDER > George > John > John > Jacob > Claude
London, England to Dutchess County NY (1710), Philadelphia/Bucks Counties PA, Berks/Lehigh Counties PA, Surry/Stokes Counties NC, Lawrence County IN, Woodford County IL, Gage County NE, Rawlins County KS, Harlan and Adams Counties NE, Denver County CO

Sample #016: Henry Holder (1803-1872) PA>IN, married Sarah Pinkley [error corrected 9/29/07] > Joseph Holder (1839-1922, Indiana)
We now have evidence that Henry is the son of Johann David Holder, born in North Carolina in 1770, son of George Holder (b. 1729, s/o John and Barbara) and Elisabeth Biehler. Johann David is last seen in NC as a teenage apprentice to his uncle Charles Holder, a saddlemaker. He appears to have returned to Pennsylvania, and eventually moved to Ohio.

Sample #026 USA: John Holder 1694-1784, m. Barbara Volck (see sample 002) > George Holder and Elisabeth Biehler > George Ludwig Holder and Elizabeth Morris > Joseph Holder and Susannah Leinbach (moved from Stokes Co. NC to Bartholomew Co. IN)> Lewis Cornelius Holder and Louisa Ann Gilbert > Alexander Elmer Holder and Eudora Edna Lockert
This sample differs from 002 and 016 at DYS439.

Sample #039 John Holder 1694-1784, m. Barbara Volck (PA; see sample 002) > George Holder and Elisabeth Biehler (NC)> Heinrich Holder and Maria Hein > Benjamin Stanford Holder and Emily George > James Henry Holder and Susanna Stewart.
Note that although this is from the branch of George Holder, it matches sample 002 (Joseph) over the markers tested. Therefore this would appear to be the original pattern of the family, and the changes in samples 016 and 026 represent more recent changes.

Sample #042 USA: John Holder 1694-1784, m. Barbara Volck (PA; see sample 002) > Charles Holder (1744-1808, PA to NC) > John Holder (1773-1824) > John Timothy Holder (1812-1870) > Wesley W. Holder (1852-1930, Forsyth Co. NC)

Sample #073 USA: USA: John Holder 1694-1784, m. Barbara Volck > John Holder b. 1725 > Jacob Holder 1757-1828 (a Loyalist who moved from PA to New Brunswick, Canada, at the time of the American Revolution) > Samuel Holder > Robert Holder

More information on this family
 

 
 
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ID#

Group

DYS
393

DYS
390

DYS
19

DYS
391

 DYS
385a		 DYS
385b

DYS
426

DYS
388

 DYS
439

DYS
389-1

DYS
392

DYS
389-2

 DYS
458		 DYS
459a		 DYS
459b

DYS
455

DYS
454

DYS
447

DYS
437

DYS
448

 DYS
449		 DYS
464a		 DYS
464b		 DYS
464c

DYS
464d

002

B1

13

23

15

10

12

16

11

15

13

13

11

29

19

8

9

11

11

26

14

18

29

11

14

14

15

016

B2

13

22

15

10

12

16

11

15

13

13

11

29

19

8

9

11

11

26

14

18

29

11

14

14

15

026

B3

13

23

15

10

12

16

11

15

14

13

11

29

19

8

9

11

11

26

14

18

29

11

14

14

15

039

B1

13

23

15

10

12

16

11

15

13

13

11

29

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

042

B1

13

23

15

10

12

16

11

15

13

13

11

29

19

8

9

11

11

26

14

18

29

11

14

14

15

073

B4

13

23

15

10

12

16

11

15

13

13

11

29

19

8

8

11

11

26

14

18

29

11

14

14

15

 

 

Although there is no doubt about the relationships of these samples, and 25 markers are sufficient to distinguish them from all other groups, for completeness markers 26 through 67 have been tested on sample 042. Sample 073 has also been tested for markers 26-37. These may prove useful in the future in relating this Holder family to families who share a common ancestor prior to the 1600s.

 
 
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ID#

Group

DYS
460

GATA
H4

YCA
IIa

YCA
IIb

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456

DYS
607

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576		 DYS
570		 CDY
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  b

DYS
442

DYS
438

042

B1

9

9

21

21

14

10

17

18

35

35

12

10

073

B4

10

9

21

21

14

10

17

18

35

35

12

10

 
 
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47

ID#

Group

DYS
531

DYS
578

DYS
395
S1a

DYS
395
S1b

DYS
590

DYS
537

DYS
641

DYS
472

DYS
406
S1

DYS
511

042

B1

11

8

16

17

7

11

10

8

12

10
 

 
 
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ID#

Group

DYS
425

DYS
413a

DYS
413b

DYS
557

DYS
594

DYS
436

DYS
490

DYS
534

DYS
450

DYS
444

DYS
481

DYS
520

DYS
446

042

B1

12

21

21

17

10

12

12

15

8

13

27

20

11
 

 
 
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ID#

Group

DYS
617

DYS
568

DYS
487

DYS
572

DYS
640

DYS
492

DYS
565

042

B1

14

12

13

10

11

12

11
 

 

This family belongs to haplogroup I2a3 as defined in the Haplogroup I2a project site. This has been confirmed by the Deep Clade test on sample 002. Although the I2a haplogroup as a whole is found predominantly in eastern Europe and the Balkans, subgroups (including I2a3) are found as a minority type throughout the countries bordering the Baltic and North Sea. This Holder family belongs to a subgroup of I2a3 which tests positive for a marker called L233, whereas most I2a3 samples are negative for L233. (Sample 042 was tested for this marker).

The terminology is still evolving, and the I2a haplogroups are becoming better differentiated as more people are tested. I2a*-Western and western I1b appear in archived list posts as earlier names for groups with similar profiles to I2a3.

 

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