Holder DNA Genealogy Project - Holders of southeastern North Carolina
Group J: Descendants of Sion Holder030 USA: Sion Holder b. abt 1821 NC m. Sarah Harvill, in Harnett Co. NC 1860 and 1870 > Thomas Jefferson Holder b. abt 1858 NC d. ? FL spouse 1) Flora Margaret Priest, NC 2) Mattie Lee Campbell, FL. This sample is from a descendant of the second marriage.
053 USA: Sion Holder b. abt. 1821 NC, m. Sarah Harvill, in Harnett Co. NC 1860 and 1870 > Neill A. Holder, lived Robeson Co. NC. 056 USA: Sion Holder b. abt 1821 NC m. Sarah Harvill, in Harnett Co. NC 1860 and 1870 > Thomas Jefferson Holder b. abt 1858 NC and first wife Flora Priest > Neill Jefferson Holder (1884-1963), lived NC.
Although samples 030 and 056 descend from different wives of Thomas Jefferson Holder, this does not affect their Y-DNA. These two samples differ at marker DYS391. Since samples 030 and 053 have the identical value (11) at this marker, yet samples 030 and 056 have a more recent ancestor in common than does either with 053, we can infer that sample 056 has a relatively recent mutation at this site. These three samples also have a large number of matches to persons with other surnames, notably Elliot.
Other samples from the same area:Three other samples have been received from people whose ancestry traces back to the same part of North Carolina, and whose autosomal DNA tests strongly suggest a relationship. The data for these samples have been added to the chart below. Like the Group J samples, sample 099 is in Haplogroup R1b (R-M269) but it differs significantly from these. It seems very unlikely that there is a common ancestor within the last 300 years or more.
099 USA: George Holder ca 1750, Duplin and Sampson Counties NC. Based on location we predicted this sample would fall in group J, but it appears to be unrelated, and doesn't match any other Holder sample so far.
Samples 091 and 101 match each other, and are from an entirely different haplogroup, T-M70. We are designating this pair as Group W within the Holder project. 091. USA: William Holder b. 1793 and Sabre Keen, lived Cumberland Co. NC > William Holder b. 1816 and Nancy Mason, Harnett Co. NC > Malcolm James Holder (1851-1916) and Sarah Jane McLean. This sample matches sample 101, but we have not yet identified a common ancestor.
101 USA: Nelson Holder Ritchie, (1840-1913), born in Missouri to parents whose names we don't know yet. In the 1880 and later censuses, he says his parents were from North Carolina.
The Group J samples, and sample 099, belong to Haplogroup R1b1b2, now known as R-M269. This haplogroup is prevalent in western Europe, especially in the British Isles. The Group W samples are in Haplogroup T-M70, which is found especially in Somalia, the Arabian peninsula, and Armenia.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
9 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
16 |
|
18 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
ID# |
Group |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS 385a |
DYS 385b |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS 439 |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS 458 |
DYS 459a |
DYS 459b |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS 449 |
DYS 464a |
DYS 464b |
DYS 464c |
DYS |
030 | J1 | 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 17 |
053 | J1 | 13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 17 |
056 | J1 | 13 | 25 | 14 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 29 | 15 | 15 | 17 | 17 |
099 |
| 13 | 24 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 15 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 28 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 25 | 15 | 19 | 28 | 14 | 15 | 17 | 17 |
091 | W | 13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 13 | 16 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 17 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 12 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 33 | 11 | 14 | 14 | 16 |
101 | W | 13 | 23 | 13 | 10 | 13 | 16 | 11 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 18 | 9 | 9 | 11 | 12 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 33 | 11 | 14 | 14 | 16 |
Consistent with their more recent ancestor in common, samples 030 and 056 are identical at markers 26 through 37, but differ from 053 at three rapidly changing markers.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
ID# |
Group |
DYS |
GATA |
YCA |
YCA |
DYS 456 |
DYS |
DYS 576 |
DYS 570 |
CDY a |
CDY b |
DYS |
DYS |
030 | J1 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 15 | 16 | 18 | 17 | 40 | 41 | 12 | 12 |
053 | J1 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 16 | 18 | 18 | 39 | 41 | 12 | 12 |
056 | J1 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 15 | 16 | 18 | 17 | 40 | 41 | 12 | 12 |
Samples 030 and 053 have been tested for markers 37-67, and are identical over this set.
This is consistent with what we've observed in other groups; markers 26-37 generally show more variation than 38-67.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
ID# |
Group |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
030 |
J1 |
11 |
9 |
15 |
16 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
053 |
J1 |
11 |
9 |
15 |
16 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
8 |
11 |
10 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
ID# |
Group |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
030 |
J1 |
12 |
23 |
23 |
16 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
14 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
20 |
13 |
053 |
J1 |
12 |
23 |
23 |
16 |
10 |
12 |
12 |
14 |
8 |
12 |
22 |
20 |
13 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
ID# |
Group |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
DYS |
030 |
J1 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
053 |
J1 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
12 |